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1551.9508 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:31 am

Getting my second dose Thursday. Had nothing the first go round. Sort of curious what the second dose will bring

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User avatar 1552.RIP » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:41 am

Getting my second dose Thursday. Had nothing the first go round. Sort of curious what the second dose will bring
So far so good for me. Zero pain at the injection site.

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1553.9508 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:41 am

Glad to hear it

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User avatar 1554.Irish Mike » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:43 am

My wife got her first pfizer today and is hounding me to get mine.I'll probably go next week.

1555.9508 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:49 am

My wife got her first pfizer today and is hounding me to get mine.I'll probably go next week.
Good. Do it

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1556.52:20 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:50 am

My wife is getting her second tomorrow, hope she doesn’t have side effects, but she’s going to act like she’s dying either way.

1557.9508 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:51 am

My wife is getting her second tomorrow, hope she doesn’t have side effects, but she’s going to act like she’s dying either way.
My kid had a fever after the first one. I’m a bit concerned about dose 2

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1558.52:20 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:04 am

I was worried I was going to be messed up. Arm to shoulder hurt after the first, nothing on the second except I can still feel where I got it when I lift my arm laterally.

1559.Denver-Gator » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:07 am

My wife is getting her second tomorrow, hope she doesn’t have side effects, but she’s going to act like she’s dying either way.
My kid had a fever after the first one. I’m a bit concerned about dose 2
I had some chills the night/early morning after my 2nd Pfizer, but the symptoms went away the following day.

1560.Juggs » Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:55 am

My parents just had their 2nd shot this week. My dad was fine the whole time. My mom felt sickish the night of the 2nd shot, fine the next morning.

They're conservative and Trump fans, btw. So much for vd's theory

1561.Juggs » Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:04 am



What is does opposite mean to you? It's not really same/opposite, it's much greyer than that. It's about odds.

Without a mask, you may have a 1% chance of spreading covid, vs 0.005% with a double mask if you have it. Who knows, but wearing a mask will be better, but enough, or is it just too abundantly cautious. Hard to say, but I would say that the California rule is overly cautions.

But then, what about a Vaccine. There is still a huge amount of people (yes I'm looking at you pg) that are hesitant about vaccines, most of them Republican. That's stupid considering the possible side effects of the vaccine, vs the possible side effects of getting and spreading covid.

We've bashed the idiot liberals who are anti-vax. What about the Republicans that are anti-covid vax?
Outside, the 2 masks is stupid period, not over cautious.

And what’s really dumber, being anti polio and flu vaccine that have been around forever and have generations of case study or being anti covid vax that was rushed and doesn’t have the same time of long term study?

It’s not really comparable.
Things change, don't they? Medical science moves at warp speed in comparison to when the polio and flu vaccines were first developed.

As I mentioned, a percentage of folks who get covid also have long term effects. Which is worse, getting the disease that we still don't have the long term effects figured out, or a vaccine that we don't know for certain about? I'll take the vaccine that shows a reduced effect of covid, from not getting it at all to not getting sent to the hospital every single time.
So you admit that we don't know for certain about the vaccines. Yes, medical science can move at warp speed at comparisons. What you simply can't move at warp speed are long term effects. It's disingenuous to say you know for fact that there won't be any. Which comes to "Which is worse". For old people, it's 100% worth it to get it because they have to worry about dying now, not a nunlikely but possible side effects 10-20 years from now. But the rest of us that are younger and asymptomatic with COVID, which is the majority of America....I'd say taking a vaccine without long term clinical trials for a virus that did absolutely nothing to us isn't necessary. I'd be pretty fucking pissed that against everything we're told, turns out 10-20 years from now there are side affects to the vaccine (or maybe just one manufacturer's) when I had none from the virus.

That's the mentality of a lot of people (particularly the 30s-early 40s crowd) from both the left and the right. At least that's what I've witnessed around here.

User avatar 1562.MoralityULack » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:18 pm

My parents just had their 2nd shot this week. My dad was fine the whole time. My mom felt sickish the night of the 2nd shot, fine the next morning.

They're conservative and Trump fans, btw. So much for vd's theory
Obviously because your parents got a shot. Then polls and stats showing half of Republicans haven't and arent going to get the shot are wrong.

That kind of "reasoning" is why Republicans have come to believe the Gorn are living among us invisibly. It is a cataclysmic failure of our education system. I blame racists who put their kids in religious schools to avoid having to socialise with wogs and where they are taught subservience, mysticism and jihad instead of math and science.

1563.Juggs » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:09 pm

My parents just had their 2nd shot this week. My dad was fine the whole time. My mom felt sickish the night of the 2nd shot, fine the next morning.

They're conservative and Trump fans, btw. So much for vd's theory
Obviously because your parents got a shot. Then polls and stats showing half of Republicans haven't and arent going to get the shot are wrong.

That kind of "reasoning" is why Republicans have come to believe the Gorn are living among us invisibly. It is a cataclysmic failure of our education system. I blame racists who put their kids in religious schools to avoid having to socialise with wogs and where they are taught subservience, mysticism and jihad instead of math and science.
As opposed to the liberal school system that teach kids socialism, fake history, common core math, and that little timmy in kindergarten is non-binary and gender is fluid. STFU

1564.Fishon » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:50 pm

I may be remembering it wrong, but pretty sure common core math was a Jeb Bush thing. Also, can you tell us the fake history being taught?

1565.evil gator » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:07 pm

Let's step back and consider which states have more schools actually open for in person learning. While numerous studies show school transmission and kids getting sick is extremely low, a lot of Dem states are ignoring the science and keeping kids at home where they learn less and R state have far more open schools. If we want to address superstition, lets look at that, and what's more harmful.

User avatar 1566.RIP » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:09 pm

Arm hurts like hell but otherwise I feel completely fine.

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1567.Juggs » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:08 pm

I may be remembering it wrong, but pretty sure common core math was a Jeb Bush thing. Also, can you tell us the fake history being taught?
I actually don't have a clue who introduced common core math, but whoever it was is a fucking moron.

Fake is hyperbolic though, but history is absolutely influenced by white guilt. A couple examples: The Natives were killed by germ warfare by intentionally giving blankets they know where infected. Scholars widely accept at this point that it never happened and if it did happen in a couple instances, it was by accident. Since June is right around the corner, I'll mention how much is made of "Juneteenth". Last year my kid's homework said what a tragedy it was and how when they finally received the news in Texas, that was the true end of slavery. Yeah, except slavery was still legal in northern states after "Juneteenth". But we'll just keep that little tid bit quiet.

We can go on and on about how the white man "Stole" land from the evil racist white men and ignore actual history. But you go on ahead and pretend that our history isn't skewed to pander to the fairies who want to believe that the American white man is the source of all evil and life is good and fair otherwise. American history books in the school system are a joke. They were 20 years ago, they're even worse now.

1568.Denver-Gator » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:15 pm

I may be remembering it wrong, but pretty sure common core math was a Jeb Bush thing. Also, can you tell us the fake history being taught?
I actually don't have a clue who introduced common core math, but whoever it was is a fucking moron.

Fake is hyperbolic though, but history is absolutely influenced by white guilt. A couple examples: The Natives were killed by germ warfare by intentionally giving blankets they know where infected. Scholars widely accept at this point that it never happened and if it did happen in a couple instances, it was by accident. Since June is right around the corner, I'll mention how much is made of "Juneteenth". Last year my kid's homework said what a tragedy it was and how when they finally received the news in Texas, that was the true end of slavery. Yeah, except slavery was still legal in northern states after "Juneteenth". But we'll just keep that little tid bit quiet.

We can go on and on about how the white man "Stole" land from the evil racist white men and ignore actual history. But you go on ahead and pretend that our history isn't skewed to pander to the fairies who want to believe that the American white man is the source of all evil and life is good and fair otherwise. American history books in the school system are a joke. They were 20 years ago, they're even worse now.
But isn't your post a bit of hyperbole.

Yes, there was slavery after "Juneteeth", but only in two border states, Delaware (thanks Biden!!!) and Kentucky (Thanks Mitch!!!!), not "the northern states". Later that year when the 13th amendment was ratified was the true end of slavery.

1569.evil gator » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:13 pm

I walked outside with my mask mostly off this AM and it was wonderful.

User avatar 1570.MoralityULack » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:58 pm

Two thirds of the people who get a mild case of COVID develop other health problems within 6 months.
Among 3,171 nonhospitalized adult COVID-19 patients, 69% had one or more outpatient visits 28–180 days after the diagnosis. Two thirds had a visit for a new primary diagnosis, and approximately one third had a new specialist visit. Symptoms potentially related to COVID-19 were common new visit diagnoses. Visits for these symptoms decreased after 60 days but for some patients continued through 120–180 days.

1571.Juggs » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:32 am

Two thirds of the people who get a mild case of COVID develop other health problems within 6 months.
Among 3,171 nonhospitalized adult COVID-19 patients, 69% had one or more outpatient visits 28–180 days after the diagnosis. Two thirds had a visit for a new primary diagnosis, and approximately one third had a new specialist visit. Symptoms potentially related to COVID-19 were common new visit diagnoses. Visits for these symptoms decreased after 60 days but for some patients continued through 120–180 days.
Once again, correlation does not equal causation except when you need it to.
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