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1.rampart » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:33 am

Fuck
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User avatar 2.DocZaius » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:48 am

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3.rampart » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:05 am

Good lord.
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User avatar 4.MoralityULack » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:20 am

Just another patriot ridding America of wetbacks and rapists for the great white savior.
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Trump got his deferments for the wrong thing. They shouldn't have been for his disappearing, imaginary bone spurs - they should have been for that yellow streak down his back. - Sen. Duckworth - Pilot who lost both legs in Iraq

5.Tommy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:03 am

You really are a asshole
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User avatar 6.DocZaius » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:11 pm

Another one in Dayton last night. Shooter killed by the cops, identity not yet released.

Has the whole world gone crazy?
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7.Juggs » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:13 pm

Another one in Dayton last night. Shooter killed by the cops, identity not yet released.

Has the whole world gone crazy?
I still blame social media. But the answer is yes.

I kinda like not watching the news or paying attention anymore. If not for this thread, I'd have not heard of any of this
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User avatar 8.DocZaius » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:53 pm

Garlic festival shooter and El Paso shooter:

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User avatar 9.MoralityULack » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:24 pm

Social media has a role, but it goes back farther.

Prejudice is at the root. For various reasons it got buried for a while. I think foremost the press uniformly against it. All media condemned it. There was little way to express your evil desires without condemnation by the media and masses. Originally the Southern Democrats were the racists and when Republicans started courting them they got diffused and buried in both parties for 20+ years. And mocked relentlessly.

I think the genie was out of the bottle with the end in the fairness in broadcasting act (however flawed) and the rise of Rush and Fox. They made racism great again and realignment completed where racists now have a controlling share of the Republican party. At least enough to control the primaries. So it is an us against them thing again. To opposite paths to power. The route for half the politicians is to sound like Lester Maddox or David Duke. Except now half the media says how great that is. Republicans with morals who speak up are crushed and retire. Trump is a symptom. There will be another when he is gone.

Absolutely, social media amplifies that message. And some people live totally in that world. And, whatever you want to do about it , you cant deny, so does weapons technology. The shooter in Dayton did all his killing in one minute.
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Trump got his deferments for the wrong thing. They shouldn't have been for his disappearing, imaginary bone spurs - they should have been for that yellow streak down his back. - Sen. Duckworth - Pilot who lost both legs in Iraq

10.GFY » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:31 pm

You really are a asshole
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User avatar 11.MoralityULack » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:38 pm

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Trump got his deferments for the wrong thing. They shouldn't have been for his disappearing, imaginary bone spurs - they should have been for that yellow streak down his back. - Sen. Duckworth - Pilot who lost both legs in Iraq

12.GFY » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:40 pm

Who is to blame for the Dayton shooting?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayto ... index.html
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13.Juggs » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:57 pm

"a very large gun, in technical terms."

No, a .223 is not a very large gun in anything other than the ability to have a higher mag capacity.
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User avatar 14.MoralityULack » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:32 pm

Just another patriot ridding America of wetbacks and rapists for the great white savior.

You really are a asshole
For what. Calling it EXACTLY like it turned out to be?

The manifesto describes a mass attack as a response “to the Hispanic invasion of Texas.”

“They are the instigators, not me,” it says. “I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.”

The writer expresses disgust with “race-mixing” and diversity in general

The document argues interracial relationships are a reason to “send them back,” referring to second and third-generation Mexican-Americans.

You always have time to attack someone for calling racist Nazi filth out for exactly what it is. You never have time to stand up for whats right and criticize the racist animals.
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Trump got his deferments for the wrong thing. They shouldn't have been for his disappearing, imaginary bone spurs - they should have been for that yellow streak down his back. - Sen. Duckworth - Pilot who lost both legs in Iraq

User avatar 15.MoralityULack » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:47 pm

Just a little geneology on "ethnic replacement"
.....comes almost directly from The Turner Diaries, a racist novel self-published in 1978 by neo-Nazi William Luther Pierce, writing under the pen name Andrew Macdonald.

J.M. Berger, an expert on extremism, estimated that The Turner Diaries had inspired at least 200 murders since it was published.

The idea was partially popularized in a 2012 book by French philosopher Renaud Camus, and it's articulated in another white nationalist trope, the "14 Words":

Timothy McVeigh, the terrorist behind the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, which killed 168 people, helped launch the novel to international fame when it was reported that his attack was styled on The Order.

White supremacist protesters at the Unite The Right Rally in Charlottesville, Virginia were heard chanting “You will not replace us"

In October 2018, Republican congressman Steve King endorsed the conspiracy theory

Media Matters reported how Tucker Carlson had begun promoting the conspiracy theory.

By July 2019, media covered how US president Donald Trump had become one of the most influential proponents of the conspiracy theory. Reporting the Institute for Strategic Dialogue's findings that Trump consistently referenced the Great Replacement, the president's Twitter account was identified as one of the top ten promoters of the ideology.[100] His history of describing Muslims and migrants as "invaders", according to SBS News, closely mirrors the language of explicit supporters of the theory.
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Trump got his deferments for the wrong thing. They shouldn't have been for his disappearing, imaginary bone spurs - they should have been for that yellow streak down his back. - Sen. Duckworth - Pilot who lost both legs in Iraq

16.evil gator » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:41 pm

how unsurprising
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17.Supes44444 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:41 pm

wowzers.
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18.Fishon » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:23 pm

how unsurprising
which thing is this in reference to? there's a lot happening in this thread
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19.evil gator » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:34 pm

all of it
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User avatar 20.Denver-Gator » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:29 pm

Let's get this straight.

In one of these incidents it's pretty clear that Mexicans were targeted, near the border where immigration is a hot topic to say the least.

Of course, the right thing to do is tie gun legislation to an immigration bill.
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21.9508 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:36 pm

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22.Juggs » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:50 pm

So he's down there at night, chillin' with his sister and a friend and decides to go postal. Hard to say he didn't want her dead, given he knew she'd likely be there.
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23.GFY » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:36 pm

Sources said he killed his sister and her BF in the car before he killed at the bar.
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24.Juggs » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:00 am

Someone was in love with his sister
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25.evil gator » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:28 pm

interesting though not surprising development

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... nt/595489/
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