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User avatar 1826.DocZaius » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:16 pm

Rape and incest good for population growth.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/14/politi ... index.html
We get the government we deserve. Thanks, Iowa.
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1828.52:20 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:31 pm

Wow
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1829.Fishon » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:37 pm

jfc
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User avatar 1830.evs' Boytoy » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:19 am

I have the weirdest boner.
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User avatar 1831.DocZaius » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:34 am

I have the weirdest boner.
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1832.gatorbreeze » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:49 am

:lol: at doc and jabs.
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Remember when you were young, broke and pissed off at the world? Well, you're older now.

1833.evil gator » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:27 pm

that's a pretty nice dress
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1834.GFY » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:46 pm

One of Denver’s faves drops out.
Coping with a struggling campaign and facing the reality that he wouldn’t make the stage at next month’s third round of Democratic presidential debates, former two-term Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper is expected to end his long-shot bid for the White House on Thursday.
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User avatar 1835.Irish Mike » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:19 pm

One of Denver’s faves drops out.
Coping with a struggling campaign and facing the reality that he wouldn’t make the stage at next month’s third round of Democratic presidential debates, former two-term Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper is expected to end his long-shot bid for the White House on Thursday.
And then there were 46
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User avatar 1836.Denver-Gator » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:07 pm

One of Denver’s faves drops out.
Coping with a struggling campaign and facing the reality that he wouldn’t make the stage at next month’s third round of Democratic presidential debates, former two-term Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper is expected to end his long-shot bid for the White House on Thursday.
Although probably one of the most centrist candidates, I don't think he has the personality to be President, and certainly would likely have failed vs Trump.

Right now, I want to see Weld defeat Trump in the primaries so I don't have to vote for a Dem.
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User avatar 1837.DocZaius » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:51 pm

CNN's April Ryan after bodyguard ejects local journalist: 'When I speak, I don’t have news covering my speech'
A local news editor claims that a bodyguard for CNN political analyst and White House correspondent April Ryan violently removed him from an event where she was a keynote speaker.

Charlie Kratovil, editor of New Brunswick Today, was on hand to cover a speech given by Ryan at the 4th annual New Jersey Parent Summit, which focuses on "educating, empowering and preparing parents for our future leaders," on Aug. 3 at The Heldrich Hotel.

In emails obtained by Fox News, Kratovil had previously RSVP'd to the event and received confirmation.

After covering the event for roughly three hours "without incident," Kratovil claims he was approached by a man, who he said he later found out was Ryan's security guard Joel Morris.

"During the intro, this man came up to me, mentioned my video camera & asked me 'Who are you with?'" Kratovil wrote on Twitter. "I gave him my card & explained that I followed the proper channels to cover the event. I asked if he had a card & he responded by saying he was 'with the speaker.'"



Kratovil alleged that Morris threatened to "take... down" the camera if he himself didn't and the public relations team began "pressuring" Kratovil to stop recording all while, ironically, Payne was praising the American Urban Radio Networks reporter for her "Freedom of the Press" award she received.

Morris appears to approach Ryan as she was speaking at the podium and whispered something to her. She nods and then pauses for almost 30 seconds until Morris grabs Kratovil's camera equipment and tripod and walks out of the ballroom.

WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS EXPLICIT LANGUAGE



“Don’t touch my camera, please. Put that down. Don’t you dare. Put that down, sir," Kratovil told the bodyguard as he followed him out of the room.

As Kratovil and Morris begin causing a scene, Ryan explains to the crowd, “When I speak, I don’t have news covering my speech." Kratovil said another journalist was recording her speech.

The two men then enter the lobby, where Kratovil is berated by Shennell McCloud, executive director of Project Ready, the group that hosted the event. McCloud accuses Kratovil of "interrupting" the event and demands his removal from the hotel.

Security camera footage from the hotel lobby appears to show Morris forcibly pushing Kratovil toward the exit.

WARNING: VIDEO CONTAINS GRAPHIC LANGUAGE



"Once I got the camera back, I was concerned for my physical safety and I asked for hotel security. I was hoping they would maintain order and maybe document the theft of my camera and any damage that may have occurred to it as a result," Kratovil told Fox News. "I was thinking, 'Wow, this guy is really crossing the line here.' At the same time, I was trying not to fall down face first while also trying to protect the camera, and yelling for bystanders to call the police as this was happening."

Kratovil expressed his solidarity with Ryan, an outspoken critic of President Trump and his treatment of the press, but told Fox News that "her reputation" now depends on addressing what had happened and is hoping for an apology.

"I think that the President deserves much criticism for his administration's lack of transparency, his own irresponsible rhetoric towards the media, and his childish attacks on individual reporters like Ms. Ryan," Kratovil said. "Her reputation now depends on finally addressing this situation head-on and proclaiming that what happened that night in New Brunswick cannot be tolerated."

Kratovil said he intends to press charges against Morris later this week.

The New Brunswick Today editor thanked members of the media who have "shined a light on this unfortunate incident."

"It can be a really hard job and one of the risks we take is getting hurt by someone who doesn't respect press freedom," Kratovil said. "We must stick together to preserve the freedom to do this work."

CNN did not immediately respond to Fox News for comment.
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1838.GFY » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:36 am

Rep. Tlaib wrote a letter to Israeli officials desperately wanting to visit her grandmother. Permission was quickly granted, whereupon Tlaib obnoxiously turned the approval down, a complete setup. The only real winner here is Tlaib’s grandmother. She doesn’t have to see her now!
Damn. :lol:
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User avatar 1839.Panamag8or » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:39 am

Apparently, Grandma called Trump a bunch of bad names.
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1840.9508 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:26 pm

Not really politics, but partisan.

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User avatar 1841.DocZaius » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:08 pm

Portland parish protests new priest’s policies
Portland, Ore., Aug 14, 2019 / 04:00 pm (CNA).- Parishioners of St. Francis of Assisi Parish in the Archdiocese of Portland staged a protest against their pastor during a June 30 Mass.

The Oregonian uploaded a video of the protests Aug. 11. The video shows elderly parishioners dressed in white, carrying signs into the assembly during the Eucharistic consecration, and attempting to shout down the pastor, Fr. George Kuforiji, during the Mass. Other parishioners are shown looking visibly uncomfortable at the disturbance.

The protests reportedly concern Fr. Kuforiji’s decision to remove unauthorised changes to the liturgy which had become common in the parish over previous years, and to take down a sign at the entrance to the church saying “Immigrants & Refugees welcome.”

Fr. Kuforiji, himself a Nigerian immigrant who was ordained in 2015, was installed as pastor of St. Francis of Assisi in 2018.

Prior to his arrival, The Oregonian reported, St. Francis was known for “progressive liturgy” that “embraced folk music” during Mass.

After arriving at the parish, Kuforiji reportedly insisted on using only Church-approved liturgical texts during the Mass. The texts refer to God as “He,” “Lord,” or “King,” instead of the gender neutral terms “God,” and “Creator” that had become customary replacements during parish liturgies.

Kuforiji also stopped the practice of reading a “community commitment” after the recitation of the Nicene Creed.

The video shows protesters shouting their own intercessory prayers over the pastor’s voice, and reciting the community commitment during Mass as a form of protest against Fr. Kuforiji’s changes. Some parishioners have also reportedly refused to kneel during the Eucharistic consecration, in defiance of a recent instruction from Portland Archbishop Alexander Sample.

The protests began in late June, when some of the parish’s handmade vestments were found in a trailer slated for the dump. According to The Oregonian, Fr. Kuforiji insisted that he had not intended to throw away the rainbow-bordered chasuble and other liturgical garb, but had intended that the vestments be placed in a storage box.

A parishioner, Albert Alter, found the vestments and accused Kuforiji of “trying to destroy the parish.”

“I don’t know anyone that would come to a parish and go to the vestment closet and take all the vestments, still on hangers, and throw them into a trailer without somebody of authority having instructed them to do so,” Alter told The Oregonian.

“We have been wanting real dialogue. I said that we are being abused. We are being abused in the Catholic Church by this priest, and by this archbishop,” said Melinda Pittman, a 30-year parishioner of St. Francis, filmed speaking at the lectern after Mass on June 30.

In the video, cries of “yes,” along with the sound of shaking maracas, are heard from the pews after Pittman states the parish is being “abused” by the priest.

At the end of the speeches following Mass on June 30, a group of parishioners confronted the priest, who can be heard saying “we are reverencing God.”

The demonstrators then linked arms and sang “We Shall Overcome,” a Gospel song typically associated with the civil rights movement in the U.S., in protest of the African-born priest.

Another attendee supporting Fr. Kuforiji as a “holy priest,” was told “you don’t belong here” by others in the assembly.

Tom Hogan, a 76-year-old parishioner of St. Francis and one of the few remaining parishioners who attended its grade school, told The Oregonian that many of the liturgical deviations at the parish were instituted by former pastor Fr. Donald Durand.

Durand’s priestly faculties were withdrawn shortly after his retirement from active ministry in 2001. He has been accused of molesting more than a dozen preteen and teenage boys, some of whom were students at St. Francis Assisi School, and numerous lawsuits against him have reportedly been settled.

Durand was pastor at St. Francis from 1970 until 1983. He has denied all allegations of misconduct.

A statement from the Archdiocese of Portland said that the archdiocese is “happy to be working with Fr. George Kuforiji, Pastor of St. Francis Parish, to revitalize the parish so that it is able to better serve the growing population in the area as well as future generations of Catholics in Portland.”

The Oregonian also reported that since late June, Mass attendance at St. Francis has dropped, and the entire choir quit and that Catholic Charities of Oregon took control of the parish’s St. Francis Dining Hall, which feeds local homeless people, in early August for a temporary, three-month period.

“The Archdiocese of Portland is excited to work with the City of Portland, Catholic Charities of Oregon and the local community to re-establish St. Francis Dining Hall as a beacon of light and mercy serving those most in need,” the archdiocesan statement said.
Video of the protest:

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1842.9508 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:11 pm

Religion thread ->
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User avatar 1843.DocZaius » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:21 pm

Religion thread ->
Sorry, I thought a story about lily-white Portlanders protesting an African priest for being too Catholic was worthy of some discussion, especially since all the hippy-dippy traditions were started by an alleged pedophile. It's political, for sure.

My opinion? If you don't like Catholicism, go join another church - there's plenty to choose from, and they reflect a wide spectrum of beliefs. Don't berate the priest for sticking with the church's official positions.
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1844.9508 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:31 pm

Religion thread ->
Sorry, I thought a story about lily-white Portlanders protesting an African priest for being too Catholic was worthy of some discussion, especially since all the hippy-dippy traditions were started by an alleged pedophile. It's political, for sure.

My opinion? If you don't like Catholicism, go join another church - there's plenty to choose from, and they reflect a wide spectrum of beliefs. Don't berate the priest for sticking with the church's official positions.
Man... some folks gotta bring race into everything.
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User avatar 1845.DocZaius » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:52 pm

I'm guessing the protestors are all into diversity and shit, since they're pissed he took down the "immigrants welcome" sign.
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1846.9508 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:58 pm

Everyone knows it ain’t a protest until you nail your grievances to the church door.
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1847.Fishon » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:07 pm

I'm with Doc on this. If you don't like a church and what it's saying, there are a ton of other options out there.
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User avatar 1848.Denver-Gator » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:10 pm

I'm with Doc on this. If you don't like a church and what it's saying, there are a ton of other options out there.
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1849.9508 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:14 pm

I'm with Doc on this. If you don't like a church and what it's saying, there are a ton of other options out there.
Based on the article. Sounds like many folks are exploring options.
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1850.Fishon » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:18 pm

I'm with Doc on this. If you don't like a church and what it's saying, there are a ton of other options out there.
Based on the article. Sounds like many folks are exploring options.
well, I skimmed the article, so there
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