Here we go again.... Hurricane Irish Mike

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126.evil gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:34 pm

glad your mom is okay Denver, I hope you scolded her tho
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127.evil gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:36 pm

I wonder if people will actually pay attention to this level of destruction and pay attention to evac orders, esp when they hit areas with hi population on the coast like Tampa or Miami. Prolly not.
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128.Juggs » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:37 pm

We're over populated anyway
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User avatar 129.GFY » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:43 pm

Denver, glad your mom made it safely and didn't have a lot of damage.
I am sure she will have plenty of business with all the line crews coming to town.
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User avatar 130.Denver-Gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:53 pm

There’s a lot of old, shabby buildings, prob not built to new codes
That's true. But also I've noticed over the years of living in Florida, houses were really well built from around the 1950s-1970s, single story CBS construction for the most part. Then in the 1980s builders got cheap. Multi-story frame homes, and skimping on the things really important for hurricanes like proper trusses and roofing nails. Also, barrel tile roofs became a thing. IMO, that's what really was why Homestead got wiped out in Andrew and I would bet you see a lot of damage with the new construction from this storm.

Of course, nothing is going to save you from a storm surge, but I think those old CBS style homes are better for wind.
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131.evil gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:58 pm

There’s a lot of old, shabby buildings, prob not built to new codes
That's true. But also I've noticed over the years of living in Florida, houses were really well built from around the 1950s-1970s, single story CBS construction for the most part. Then in the 1980s builders got cheap. Multi-story frame homes, and skimping on the things really important for hurricanes like proper trusses and roofing nails. Also, barrel tile roofs became a thing. IMO, that's what really was why Homestead got wiped out in Andrew and I would bet you see a lot of damage with the new construction from this storm.

Of course, nothing is going to save you from a storm surge, but I think those old CBS style homes are better for wind.
probably but those 50s buildings all seem to be built right on the ground so they get flooded. We stayed in a rental one time and it reeked of past flooding
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User avatar 132.Denver-Gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:06 pm

There’s a lot of old, shabby buildings, prob not built to new codes
That's true. But also I've noticed over the years of living in Florida, houses were really well built from around the 1950s-1970s, single story CBS construction for the most part. Then in the 1980s builders got cheap. Multi-story frame homes, and skimping on the things really important for hurricanes like proper trusses and roofing nails. Also, barrel tile roofs became a thing. IMO, that's what really was why Homestead got wiped out in Andrew and I would bet you see a lot of damage with the new construction from this storm.

Of course, nothing is going to save you from a storm surge, but I think those old CBS style homes are better for wind.
probably but those 50s buildings all seem to be built right on the ground so they get flooded. We stayed in a rental one time and it reeked of past flooding
Well yeah, if you build in low lying area, you're going to be subject to flooding regardless.
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133.shutout » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:07 pm

These fucking yokels up here saw the Fox report on CNN overblowing coverage a couple weeks ago and couldn't stop talking about how hurricanes don't do anything. F'n idiots.
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User avatar 134.Denver-Gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:10 pm

These fucking yokels up here saw the Fox report on CNN overblowing coverage a couple weeks ago and couldn't stop talking about how hurricanes don't do anything. F'n idiots.
It certainly isn't exciting to show photos and video of slightly damaged homes and businesses.
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135.evil gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:13 pm

These fucking yokels up here saw the Fox report on CNN overblowing coverage a couple weeks ago and couldn't stop talking about how hurricanes don't do anything. F'n idiots.
It certainly isn't exciting to show photos and video of slightly damaged homes and businesses.
yeah the poor panama city beach mayor was on CNN trying to say how the beaches still looked great etc so not to scare off tourists and they kept re-directing him to talk about the destruction
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User avatar 136.angrigator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:41 pm

My Mom rode out the storm on Panama City Beach safely. Only a fence down. She lives in a small, well constructed concrete block house near where Front and Middle beach roads meet on the west side of the town, about 3 blocks from the Gulf. The neighborhood is on a dune about 30 ft above sea level, so no flooding.

No power and cell service. Although her neighbor did have service for some reason, which is how I was able to talk to her for a few minutes this morning. She'll head to the casino in Biloxi once the roads open up since she has full tank of gas and the power will likely be out for quite a while.
West end fared pretty well. East end, not so much.
One of my wife’s sisters left from a mobile home about a mile inland from Long Beach to a horltel in Callaway which got hammered. She hasn’t been back yet that we know of. Sister in the Southport house took a few trees on the house and van. Nobody’s heard from her today.
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User avatar 137.GFY » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:37 pm

My Mom rode out the storm on Panama City Beach safely. Only a fence down. She lives in a small, well constructed concrete block house near where Front and Middle beach roads meet on the west side of the town, about 3 blocks from the Gulf. The neighborhood is on a dune about 30 ft above sea level, so no flooding.

No power and cell service. Although her neighbor did have service for some reason, which is how I was able to talk to her for a few minutes this morning. She'll head to the casino in Biloxi once the roads open up since she has full tank of gas and the power will likely be out for quite a while.
West end fared pretty well. East end, not so much.
One of my wife’s sisters left from a mobile home about a mile inland from Long Beach to a horltel in Callaway which got hammered. She hasn’t been back yet that we know of. Sister in the Southport house took a few trees on the house and van. Nobody’s heard from her today.
She probably has caller ID.
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User avatar 138.angrigator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:58 pm



West end fared pretty well. East end, not so much.
One of my wife’s sisters left from a mobile home about a mile inland from Long Beach to a horltel in Callaway which got hammered. She hasn’t been back yet that we know of. Sister in the Southport house took a few trees on the house and van. Nobody’s heard from her today.
She probably has caller ID.
She’s a tweaker and I don’t care if I ever hear from her again.
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139.evil gator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:00 pm

Michael is here! just lots of rain, I guess windy later?
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User avatar 140.GFY » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:20 pm

Toronado warning for RichmondVA. Enjoy the rain eg.
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User avatar 141.Denver-Gator » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:13 pm

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142.HG 2.0 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:32 pm



That's true. But also I've noticed over the years of living in Florida, houses were really well built from around the 1950s-1970s, single story CBS construction for the most part. Then in the 1980s builders got cheap. Multi-story frame homes, and skimping on the things really important for hurricanes like proper trusses and roofing nails. Also, barrel tile roofs became a thing. IMO, that's what really was why Homestead got wiped out in Andrew and I would bet you see a lot of damage with the new construction from this storm.

Of course, nothing is going to save you from a storm surge, but I think those old CBS style homes are better for wind.
probably but those 50s buildings all seem to be built right on the ground so they get flooded. We stayed in a rental one time and it reeked of past flooding
Well yeah, if you build in low lying area, you're going to be subject to flooding regardless.
One of the things that impacted Miami was the corruption. My good friend was a building official that toured the damage. Sheets of plywood on roofs with only four nails, proper hurricane straps still embedded in the block bent over not nailed into trusses. It was an unspoken rule for the going rates (to pay off) inspectors. All of that shouthave been caught had inspections occurred. They didn’t. And there ya go

1950-1960 houses were also more low slope roofs. That helps break up the vortex that rips roofs off by letting the wind go smoothly across the roof. All that helps
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User avatar 143.panamag8or » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:39 pm

My first apartment up there looks to have lost some shingles. The house on the beach looks fine.
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User avatar 144.Denver-Gator » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:22 pm


probably but those 50s buildings all seem to be built right on the ground so they get flooded. We stayed in a rental one time and it reeked of past flooding
Well yeah, if you build in low lying area, you're going to be subject to flooding regardless.
One of the things that impacted Miami was the corruption. My good friend was a building official that toured the damage. Sheets of plywood on roofs with only four nails, proper hurricane straps still embedded in the block bent over not nailed into trusses. It was an unspoken rule for the going rates (to pay off) inspectors. All of that shouthave been caught had inspections occurred. They didn’t. And there ya go

1950-1960 houses were also more low slope roofs. That helps break up the vortex that rips roofs off by letting the wind go smoothly across the roof. All that helps
Yeah, we insisted the house, which was built in the late 90s, was CBS and the metal roof isn't sloped as much as the new construction. It's also single story, at an elevation of about 35 feet. The dune rises up quite a bit where she lives.

Still, I think if it hit about 15 miles to the west, she would have had a rough time of it. I'm going to mention that when I visit for Thanksgiving. It looks like the damage isn't nearly as bad on that side of PCB.
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145.HG 2.0 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:31 pm

My first apartment up there looks to have lost some shingles. The house on the beach looks fine.
Holy shit
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146.Tommy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:39 pm

That storm wasnt far off from Andrew in strength, if that mutha would have hit a heavily populated area, would be terrible.
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User avatar 147.GFY » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:26 am

That storm wasnt far off from Andrew in strength, if that mutha would have hit a heavily populated area, would be terrible.
No doubt. Imagined if it went up the west coast of Florida. It would have fucked up half the state easily.
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User avatar 148.panamag8or » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:50 pm

Check this out:

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User avatar 150.GFY » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:37 am

Cool read.

That house also sheltered the one behind it.
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