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1276.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 12:21 am

If ever there had been an opportunity to have an opinion and shut the fuck up....

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/politics ... index.html
John McCain flew 23 combat missions over North Vietnam when the defenses were at their strongest. He won an air medal along the way. He was shot down, badly injured, and tortured. He was senior POW and because of his prominence his release was arranged. He chose to stay behind with his men knowing he would be tortured even worse. Which he was.

Donald Trump was a draft dodger who paid a doctor to certify a fake illness so he wouldn't have to serve in the military in any capacity. A few years later he couldnt remember what that crippling injury was. He said in an interview that he had it worse than those who went to Vietnam, what with the risk of VD while he was fucking all the absent mens girlfriends.

This cowardly unpatriotic asshole attacked John McCain, said he was no hero and mocked his sacrifice.

Why the fuck would anybody think McCain should invite such a shallow ungrateful treasonous POS to his funeral.
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1277.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 12:59 am

The marketplace in Texas now no longer offers PPOs to individuals. My corporate insurance (Humana with a ~ $6000 deductible) just went up 17% to over $1900 a month for two people.
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1278.9508 » Wed May 09, 2018 1:07 am

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1279.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 1:13 am

Dan Eberhart, CEO of oilfield services company Canary LLC, drew a direct connection: "Withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal will support higher oil prices."

Trump telegraphed the move, and oil prices shot up in recent weeks as traders anticipated it. Crude topped $70 a barrel this week for the first time in nearly four years.
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1280.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 1:53 am

A consulting firm owned by Michael Cohen, an attorney for President Donald Trump, reportedly received payments totaling about $500,000 from the U.S. affiliate of a Russian billionaire’s company.

The payments were first reported by porn actress Stormy Daniels’ attorney Michael Avenatti, who said Tuesday his legal firm had uncovered the transactions. The New York Times later reported on the payments based on interviews and an internal review of financial records. The Daily Beast also said it could confirm Avenatti’s claims, citing an anonymous source.

CNN later reported that special counsel Robert Mueller questioned Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian reportedly behind the payments, about the sums his company’s U.S. affiliate paid to Cohen. As the Times reported last week, Mueller spoke to Vekselberg as part of his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election.
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User avatar 1281.ufgators68 » Wed May 09, 2018 12:52 pm

After publication, Columbus Nova provided a statement from its attorney, Richard Owens.

"Columbus Nova is a management company solely owned and controlled by Americans," the statement said. "After the inauguration, the firm hired Michael Cohen as a business consultant regarding potential sources of capital and potential investments in real estate and other ventures. Reports today that Viktor Vekselberg used Columbus Nova as a conduit for payments to Michael Cohen are false. The claim that Viktor Vekselberg was involved or provided any funding for Columbus Nova's engagement of Michael Cohen is patently untrue. Neither Viktor Vekselberg nor anyone else other than Columbus Nova's owners, were involved in the decision to hire Cohen or provided funding for his engagement."
Later Tuesday, Eric Kosta, general counsel of Columbus Nova, sent this statement: "As the General Counsel of Columbus Nova, I can confirm that the company is 100% owned and controlled by Americans. Any suggestion that at any point in time Viktor Vekselberg or any of his companies owned or exercised any control over Columbus Nova is patently untrue."
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1282.evil gator » Wed May 09, 2018 1:41 pm

Blankenship loses, good.
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1283.HG 2.0 » Wed May 09, 2018 1:52 pm

The marketplace in Texas now no longer offers PPOs to individuals. My corporate insurance (Humana with a ~ $6000 deductible) just went up 17% to over $1900 a month for two people.
This was all set in motion the second Obamacare was passed. Some areas just took longer to be devastated...
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1284.9508 » Wed May 09, 2018 2:15 pm

The marketplace in Texas now no longer offers PPOs to individuals. My corporate insurance (Humana with a ~ $6000 deductible) just went up 17% to over $1900 a month for two people.
This was all set in motion the second Obamacare was passed. Some areas just took longer to be devastated...
Eliminating the personal mandate has absolutely affected the pricing. Welcome to trumpcare.
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1285.9508 » Wed May 09, 2018 2:15 pm

Blankenship loses, good.
It was a sort of amazing campaign he ran.
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1287.HG 2.0 » Wed May 09, 2018 2:46 pm



The marketplace in Texas now no longer offers PPOs to individuals. My corporate insurance (Humana with a ~ $6000 deductible) just went up 17% to over $1900 a month for two people.
This was all set in motion the second Obamacare was passed. Some areas just took longer to be devastated...
Eliminating the personal mandate has absolutely affected the pricing. Welcome to trumpcare.
Yeah, that did not help matters .... the exponential rise in costs can immediately after Obama’s passage. Gave insurance companies full reign of terror....it’s inexcusable
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1288.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 3:00 pm

False

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1289.HG 2.0 » Wed May 09, 2018 3:07 pm

False

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Premiums are only part of the equation you dumb fuck .... deductibles cost more than most people’s mortgage payments for a year..... regularly affordable plans with $2,000 deductible or less were the norm .... I had a High Deductible Plan at $2500 .... then instantly it went to $9,000

And if we are going to accept your fucking whiny anecdotes then mine should be treated as gospel.....
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1290.rampart » Wed May 09, 2018 4:57 pm

IF he does that we will be one step closer to becoming the democratic people's republic of the United States
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1291.HG 2.0 » Wed May 09, 2018 5:01 pm

IF he does that we will be one step closer to becoming the democratic people's republic of the United States
It’s certainly an industry that could use some serious introspection and re-establishing of values....
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1292.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 5:43 pm

False

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Premiums are only part of the equation you dumb fuck .... deductibles cost more than most people’s mortgage payments for a year..... regularly affordable plans with $2,000 deductible or less were the norm .... I had a High Deductible Plan at $2500 .... then instantly it went to $9,000

And if we are going to accept your fucking whiny anecdotes then mine should be treated as gospel.....
Wrong again. Deductibles went ever so slightly more before Obamacare. Leveled off at first and then resumed course. They are slightly lower than the trend before Obamacare

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1293.9508 » Wed May 09, 2018 5:53 pm

IF he does that we will be one step closer to becoming the democratic people's republic of the United States
It’s certainly an industry that could use some serious introspection and re-establishing of values....
Most assuredly... but it’s not for the Whitehouse to decide.
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1294.evil gator » Wed May 09, 2018 8:04 pm

if polls are to be believed anymore, Ds have squandered what was considered a huge advantage

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... spartanntp
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1295.Fishon » Wed May 09, 2018 8:12 pm

if polls are to be believed anymore, Ds have squandered what was considered a huge advantage

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... spartanntp
i don't remember; are polls still bs or are they good now?
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1296.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 8:19 pm

The polls are good. Especially if you take an average. They were good before. By the time of the election Hillary's lead had declined for various reasons. And people don't look at the margin of error. Hillary only lost one state where she had a lead outside the margin.
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1297.evil gator » Wed May 09, 2018 8:23 pm

if polls are to be believed anymore, Ds have squandered what was considered a huge advantage

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... spartanntp
i don't remember; are polls still bs or are they good now?
they have been wrong on some key elections, but the pollsters always have good reasons for that after the fact
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1298.evil gator » Wed May 09, 2018 8:25 pm

another poll shows Scott leading Nelson for the senate seat...it seems like all the Floridians I know bitch about Scott nonstop but he's going to beat Nelson? What gives Florida folk?
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1299.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 8:25 pm

One thing Trump has going for him now is that you can only be so upset about who he sexually assaulted, or what war hero the draft dodger attacked, or how many of his staff are Russian spies, traitors, or money launderers. The man does something profoundly evil and outrageous three times day. At some point it is- whatever. I think that will change a the election grows nearer.
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1300.MoralityULack » Wed May 09, 2018 8:27 pm

another poll shows Scott leading Nelson for the senate seat...it seems like all the Floridians I know bitch about Scott nonstop but he's going to beat Nelson? What gives Florida folk?
Nelson is up 2.2 in the RCP average.

The only poll that has him up there is FAU. Not exactly Gallup.
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