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User avatar 701.RIP » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:24 pm

I think doc's point was that sure you can be grossed out/weirded out by it but there's no need to go to the national media.
sure, but that may be the difference in being a guy vs. being a female. women are subjected to this kind of thing on a much bigger scale than men are. is it any shock that people are getting fed up with it? for those women who complained, that's probably not the first time they've been groped on the job (cynically speaking, it may be the first time a billionaire did it)
Oh I get all of that but in this particular case it's dumb to report it to the media. The dude is almost 100 years old and is likely out of his mind. File a complaint with your boss and ask to be reassigned. Dealing with this kind of shit is a hazard of the job when it comes to elderly healthcare specifically.
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702.shutout » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:26 pm

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i thought the same. :lol:
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User avatar 703.RIP » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:27 pm

Side note: If Stan Lee is completely coherent then fuck him and it's not acceptable and he should be lambasted. I doubt he is though at that age.
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704.evs » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:32 pm

I think doc's point was that sure you can be grossed out/weirded out by it but there's no need to go to the national media.
sure, but that may be the difference in being a guy vs. being a female. women are subjected to this kind of thing on a much bigger scale than men are. is it any shock that people are getting fed up with it? for those women who complained, that's probably not the first time they've been groped on the job (cynically speaking, it may be the first time a billionaire did it)
Oh I get all of that but in this particular case it's dumb to report it to the media. The dude is almost 100 years old and is likely out of his mind. File a complaint with your boss and ask to be reassigned. Dealing with this kind of shit is a hazard of the job when it comes to elderly healthcare specifically.
sure, I think generally go to the media if you've already complained at work. However, like blue and Fish said, we don't really know all about the situation
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705.Cus » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:38 pm

My soon-to-be 90 year old mother resides in a nursing home and recently her equally elderly, mind gone over the rainbow, former Pentecostal Holiness preacher's wife, roommate was quite insistent that I remove my clothing.
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Yyyyeeah, because I'd make something like that up.
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706.Juggs » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:52 pm

Side note: If Stan Lee is completely coherent then fuck him and it's not acceptable and he should be lambasted. I doubt he is though at that age.
Never know. I know a guy who's 94 and he's sharp as hell. My great grandfather was as well until alzheimers hit him around 98.
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User avatar 707.RIP » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:01 pm

if he does have alzheimers/dimetia then this is a huge HIPAA violation btw. Again, if not then fuck him.
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708.rampart » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:36 am

My soon-to-be 90 year old mother resides in a nursing home and recently her equally elderly, mind gone over the rainbow, former Pentecostal Holiness preacher's wife, roommate was quite insistent that I remove my clothing.
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ha, damn
could have been a fear of moths
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User avatar 709.RIP » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:37 pm

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710.rampart » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:45 pm

I can't stand that guy, he has a face I just want to kick over and over again
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User avatar 711.99inNC » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:33 pm

I can't stand that guy, he has a face I just want to kick over and over again
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User avatar 712.DocZaius » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:52 pm

Aziz Ansari guilty of not being a mind-reader.
I’m apparently the victim of sexual assault. And if you’re a sexually active woman in the 21st century, chances are that you are, too.

That is what I learned from the “exposé” of Aziz Ansari published this weekend by the feminist website Babe — arguably the worst thing that has happened to the #MeToo movement since it began in October. It transforms what ought to be a movement for women’s empowerment into an emblem for female helplessness.

The headline primes the reader to gird for the very worst: “I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life.” Like everyone else, I clicked.

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In the 30 or so minutes that followed — recounted beat by cringe-inducing beat — they hooked up. Mr. Ansari persistently tried to have penetrative sex with her, and Grace says she was deeply uncomfortable throughout. At various points, she told the reporter, she attempted to voice her hesitation, and that Mr. Ansari ignored her signals.

At last, she uttered the word “no” for the first time during their encounter, to Mr. Ansari’s suggestion that they have sex in front of a mirror. He said: “‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”

They got dressed, sat on the couch and watched “Seinfeld.” She said to him: “You guys are all the same.” He called her an Uber. She cried on the way home. Fin.

If you are wondering what about this evening constituted the “worst night” of Grace’s life, or why it is being framed as a #MeToo story by a feminist website, you probably feel as confused as Mr. Ansari did the next day. “It was fun meeting you last night,” he texted.

“Last night might’ve been fun for you, but it wasn’t for me,” she responded. “You ignored clear nonverbal cues; you kept going with advances. You had to have noticed I was uncomfortable.” He replied with an apology.

Read Grace’s text message again.

Put in other words: I am angry that you weren’t able to read my mind.

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I’m sorry Grace had this experience. I too have had lousy romantic encounters, as has every adult woman I know. I have regretted these encounters, and not said anything at all. And I have regretted them and said so, like Grace did. And I know I am lucky that these unpleasant moments were far from being anything approaching assault or rape, or even the worst night of my life.

But the response to Grace’s story makes me think that many of my fellow feminists might insist that my experience was just that, and for me to define it otherwise is nothing more than my internalized misogyny.

There is a useful term for what Grace experienced on her night with Mr. Ansari. It’s called “bad sex.” It sucks.
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713.Juggs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:55 pm

She should be punched in the cooter.
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714.evs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:02 pm

he was funny on Parks but his show is sort of creepy
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715.rampart » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:05 pm

he was funny on Parks but his show is sort of creepy
Yeh, good in parks but his standup isn't even good enough for me to listen long enough to notice if it's creepy
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User avatar 716.DocZaius » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:00 pm

I was reading the original article where the woman complains about the date and apparently he kept jamming his fingers in her mouth to try to get her in the mood.

I don't consider myself a Casanova or anything, but surely there's not a woman on earth who finds that seductive?
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717.Juggs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:04 pm

I was reading the original article where the woman complains about the date and apparently he kept jamming his fingers in her mouth to try to get her in the mood.

I don't consider myself a Casanova or anything, but surely there's not a woman on earth who finds that seductive?
Well, her version is that he kept jamming his fingers in her mouth and it seems pretty obvious by the rest of it that she's exaggerating things quite a bit.
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718.evs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:07 pm

well clearly he's not a rapist, he's like 90 pounds, any woman could fight him off
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User avatar 719.evs' Boytoy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:13 pm

well clearly he's not a rapist, he's like 90 pounds, any woman could fight him off
even vd.
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720.evs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:15 pm

well clearly he's not a rapist, he's like 90 pounds, any woman could fight him off
even vd.
he couldn't fend off Peter Dinklage
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721.Juggs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:29 pm

well clearly he's not a rapist, he's like 90 pounds, any woman could fight him off
even vd.
he couldn't fend off Peter Dinklage
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722.GFY » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:43 am

:lol:
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User avatar 723.DocZaius » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:59 pm

The 22-year-old who wrote the piece about Aziz Ansari sends a nasty email to Ashleigh Banfield's boss, and in the process removed all doubt, as the saying goes:

http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/17/hln-aziz-ansari-email/
Banfield reads: “‘Ashleigh — someone I assume no one under the age of 45 has ever heard of — I hope the 500 retweets on the single news write-up made that burgundy lipstick, bad highlights, second wave-feminist has-been really relevant for a little while…'”

Banfield concludes the clip angrily: “If you truly believe in feminism, the last thing you should do is attack someone in an ad hominem way for her age — I’m 50 — for my highlights — I was brown-haired for a while when I was a war correspondent interviewing Yasser Arafat and in Afganistan, Iraq, Gaza, and the West Bank — Google those places. That’s not the way we have those conversations as women or as men. We don’t attack — as journalists — we do not attack for people for their age, or their highlights, or their lipstick. It is the most hypocritical thing a woman who says she supports the woman’s movement could ever do.”
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User avatar 724.DocZaius » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:42 pm

As if we needed any more reason to hate millennials.
She clearly doesn't respect one of the big names in her own field, who rose to her position by taking life-threatening assignments in the world's shittiest holes - has no idea who she is, it sounds like. She calls a young woman who had a regretful sexual experience the "bravest" person she's ever met, etc. She's like a poster child for everything people hate about millennials.
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User avatar 725.DocZaius » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:22 pm

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